First of all thanks for the transcription. English is not my mother tongue, which is why I usually prefer written texts to spoken ones.
I agree with your comments, but I don't know how to apply them to the behavior, tactics and strategies of GA activists. The discussions about appropriate behavior and so-called "hate speech" are probably as old as the movement itself.
In my perception "the system" sets a trap for us here. If we behave politely, we will not be taken seriously, according to the motto: if no one is crying, then it can't be that bad. On the other hand, if we show (personal) concern, even emotions, we are accused of hate speech. This accusation is even raised in advance, namely when we only point out the facts. There is already a lot of projection at play here: abusers turn their own guilty conscience defensiveness and feelings of hatred against us by imputing them to us. Here a perpetrator-victim reversal takes place on an emotional level.
Another problem arises as soon as we express ourselves on a personal level and talk about individual cases. Then there are regularly two allegations: 1. We would generalize an individual case and practically abuse it to discredit bystanders and 2. We would address our personal complaints wrongly, that is: we should please deal with our problems with our own parents. This second accusation is often combined with the remark that we behaved ungratefully, after all, our parents acted in our best interests and could not be held responsible for the fact that something "went wrong" with our circumcision. If we then point out that every routine circ "wents wrong" i.e. is an always damaging procedure, that our parents themselves were dependent on the cultural environment, i.e. on the system, when they agreed to the circumcision or even initiated it themselves, they will at best shake their head or outright laugh at you. Ultimately, it boils down to a "get over it / deal with it" and a reminder that there are more important things in life.
Like I said, it's a trap, a systemic one at that, and a generational trap, and I don't know how to avoid falling into it. The only solution I see is to refer to the facts again and again.
“ Nothing you do to control your own actions can them a better person.”-> “ Nothing you do to control your own actions can MAKE them BE a better person.”
First of all thanks for the transcription. English is not my mother tongue, which is why I usually prefer written texts to spoken ones.
I agree with your comments, but I don't know how to apply them to the behavior, tactics and strategies of GA activists. The discussions about appropriate behavior and so-called "hate speech" are probably as old as the movement itself.
In my perception "the system" sets a trap for us here. If we behave politely, we will not be taken seriously, according to the motto: if no one is crying, then it can't be that bad. On the other hand, if we show (personal) concern, even emotions, we are accused of hate speech. This accusation is even raised in advance, namely when we only point out the facts. There is already a lot of projection at play here: abusers turn their own guilty conscience defensiveness and feelings of hatred against us by imputing them to us. Here a perpetrator-victim reversal takes place on an emotional level.
Another problem arises as soon as we express ourselves on a personal level and talk about individual cases. Then there are regularly two allegations: 1. We would generalize an individual case and practically abuse it to discredit bystanders and 2. We would address our personal complaints wrongly, that is: we should please deal with our problems with our own parents. This second accusation is often combined with the remark that we behaved ungratefully, after all, our parents acted in our best interests and could not be held responsible for the fact that something "went wrong" with our circumcision. If we then point out that every routine circ "wents wrong" i.e. is an always damaging procedure, that our parents themselves were dependent on the cultural environment, i.e. on the system, when they agreed to the circumcision or even initiated it themselves, they will at best shake their head or outright laugh at you. Ultimately, it boils down to a "get over it / deal with it" and a reminder that there are more important things in life.
Like I said, it's a trap, a systemic one at that, and a generational trap, and I don't know how to avoid falling into it. The only solution I see is to refer to the facts again and again.
You have to own your perspective so strongly that is breaks their frame.
The first and most important thing is the Truth. When you speak truth you are doing a courageous act!
“ Nothing you do to control your own actions can them a better person.”-> “ Nothing you do to control your own actions can MAKE them BE a better person.”
He returns! Thank you. If/When you've got book edits, send them to me.
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